EP 10 - Heart Of Stone - Cher (1989)

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Here is Cher once again asking life's important questions. One being, do you believe in life after love? And another being, if you had a heart of stone, would that make, you know, shit easier? And I think you would probably die. [00:00:15] Speaker B: You know? That's a good observation. That's a good observation, Cam. [00:00:18] Speaker A: That's what I think. [00:00:19] Speaker B: And that's why you're a doctor. All right, dolls. [00:00:38] Speaker A: So all welcome back to Diva Decoded. I'm Nelly. [00:00:45] Speaker B: And I'm Cam. [00:00:46] Speaker A: And today, what are we covering? Cam? [00:00:49] Speaker B: Today we are covering Heart of Stone by Cher. [00:00:55] Speaker A: Are you Cher? What are you, you fat [00:01:00] Speaker B: love? Is that what she said? [00:01:02] Speaker A: No. Trixie Mattel does this bit where. [00:01:05] Speaker B: Oh, yes. [00:01:07] Speaker A: Like, homophobic. Share. And I think it's. Yeah, I think it's really funny. [00:01:10] Speaker B: Oh, my God. Wait, I feel like I haven't seen that bit before. But I have seen a lot of Trixie's bits. I do love Trixie. [00:01:16] Speaker A: People love in the gay community, too. It's, like, such a thing to do. Cher's voice. [00:01:21] Speaker B: Yeah. I feel. Well, I'm just bad at impersonations in general, but I feel like that is the go to. Her and Shakira are just the two go tos. [00:01:30] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, Shakira, I've never really got into Shakira. She never really did anything. [00:01:35] Speaker B: For me personally, I think she has amazing features. Like, her features are great. [00:01:41] Speaker A: Oh, she's stunning. She's absolutely stunning. Oh, features, like facial features. [00:01:47] Speaker B: Yes, sure. But I actually meant, like, musical features. [00:01:51] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, yeah. No, that's real. That's real. [00:01:56] Speaker B: I don't know if I'm that familiar with her actual personal discography. [00:02:01] Speaker A: Yeah, me neither. I know hips don't lie, but who doesn't? [00:02:04] Speaker B: Right, right, right. [00:02:05] Speaker A: And I know, like, beautiful. It's time for Africa. [00:02:09] Speaker B: Waka waka. [00:02:10] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:02:10] Speaker B: Hey, hey, Waka waka. [00:02:13] Speaker A: I In my sixth grade class, that was, like, one of our graduation dances. So we dance in Ottawa. Yeah, in Ottawa. I, like, went to, like, a suburbs, like, Catholic school. A bunch of white kids do, like, doing, like, it's time for Africa. [00:02:28] Speaker B: Like, and those teachers need to be imprisoned. [00:02:31] Speaker A: I don't know. I don't know who was thinking that, [00:02:33] Speaker B: but, yeah, there was nobody thinking. [00:02:35] Speaker A: I still kind of remember the dance. This used to be a video podcast. [00:02:38] Speaker B: Yeah. Can you perform it? Okay, well, I'll do it behind closed doors. [00:02:42] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't know if, like, I might remember a little bit anyway. Shakira. Shakira. But Cher. It's time for a Cher. That's not a good Cher at all. That's fucking Barty. [00:02:54] Speaker B: Yeah, that is, that is, that's not even. I don't know what that is actually. That's. That's actual like congestion. [00:03:00] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:03:02] Speaker B: But Cher, darling. [00:03:04] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:03:05] Speaker B: I actually want to just take a moment to say that like, I. I knew your hits. Okay. I knew your hits, Cher. I wasn't aware of your sleeper hits. Oh, yeah, I was not aware. And I want to say like, just overall, Heart of Stone is that girl. [00:03:21] Speaker A: Yeah, it was really fucking good. [00:03:23] Speaker B: Oh my God. I was like, oh my God. I can see why this was like. Was it her best selling? [00:03:29] Speaker A: I think if I could turn back time as like one of her staples of her career. [00:03:34] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:03:35] Speaker A: Until Believe at least she. [00:03:37] Speaker B: This album. I was like, oh, you come. Come get your body chain. Like, like this is amazing. Like, and it's just. It has such a sound to it that like, I feel like whenever people are like, oh my God. This reminds me of growing up in the. Growing up in the 90s and like going into my car and having to the window, whatever. I feel like those. I feel like those millennials, like I. I really do. And it really touched me. Like this album did it for me. [00:04:05] Speaker A: Yeah, no, this is, this was, this was great. And I wasn't expecting it, cuz I don't know what I was expecting from Cher, but I was like, oh, this girl. This girl knew what she was up to. This. And she had been releasing music for a while. [00:04:18] Speaker B: Oh my God. At this point, this was long after Sunny and Cher even. [00:04:22] Speaker A: Yeah. Because I think she was releasing in the 60s. So like, fuck, this is like 89. So. Yeah, it was cool to hear her in a rock setting because I think of like, do you believe in love after love? And like that's like super pop. Yeah. So it was, it was very cool. And then I don't know, I love like a good like 80s rock pop moment. Like, that was so good. [00:04:47] Speaker B: I love a good drum. Like, I'm always talking about the drums. [00:04:51] Speaker A: Yes, you are. [00:04:51] Speaker B: I freaking love the drums. Like in that era, like, that was just such a staple and I think that like it just elevated the song, each song with like the heavy drums. I was like, oh, like listening to it with my Sony headphones. Brought to you by Sony headphones. [00:05:07] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:05:07] Speaker B: And I was like, oh, I am. I'm there, I'm there. I'm right there with you, Cher. [00:05:12] Speaker A: Yeah, I felt it in my G spot when the, when these drums were going off. [00:05:16] Speaker B: Right, right. [00:05:17] Speaker A: Stimulating me. [00:05:19] Speaker B: Um, thank you, Cam, for the visual. But Also, yeah, Like, I definitely did. I definitely. I definitely reached. I definitely. I definitely did. [00:05:27] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:05:27] Speaker B: But I think. I think I'm glad that we chose this album because, like, I already knew. I already knew, like, having the first. The first track being, like, if I could turn back time, I'm just like, oh, this is going to be something that's really cool to get into. And that's Heart of Stone as an album. I had already heard of it as part of her legacy. I'm not that familiar with her albums in general, like, within her discography, but that was the one album that, like, I had been. That is known. It is a very, like. It's just. It's. It. It definitely was a staple of her career. [00:05:59] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:05:59] Speaker B: And so listening to it, I'm just like, oh, exactly. Like, well, yes. Like, this is. This is everything. So, Cher, I would like to thank you for providing this to us. And I think that you, like, had the foresight to know that 38 years later, Caminelli would be covering this on Diva Decoded. You did this for us. [00:06:22] Speaker A: Yeah. That's why she made the album. [00:06:25] Speaker B: She did. [00:06:25] Speaker A: She said one day. One day. I. I keep doing Kermit the Frog. That's what I did. [00:06:31] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, it is Kermit. It's giving one day in the future, but now this. Now it's giving, like, like, 80s, like, nerd. Like. Like, like, that's getting bullied. [00:06:42] Speaker A: Well, I could do that, too. If I. If I pulled up and I was like, yo, Nelly, how are you? What would you think? [00:06:52] Speaker B: I think I'd be wet. Okay, no siblings listening to this, please. I think. I think that's it that I have to say. Preliminary. [00:07:04] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, I just have to agree with everything you're saying. Like, this is such a strong album. And, you know, when, like, you. You know the singles and then you go and listen to the album and you're like, oh, this hits, too. [00:07:15] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:07:15] Speaker A: So, yeah, I just. I totally agree with you. And this was new for me. My first time, like, listening, I hadn't really heard Chair much other than, like, the really, really big hits. So to dive into a whole album, I was like, oh, this. This girl is who she is for a reason. So, yeah, I was very, like, happily not surprised. But, you know, it was new for me, so it was a. It was a very good new experience and discovery of. Of some great. So, yeah, I think. I think we're very much on the same page with that. [00:07:45] Speaker B: Oh, Kim. We're aligned. [00:07:47] Speaker A: I know. [00:07:47] Speaker B: Oh, my God. [00:07:49] Speaker A: Who would have Known. Wait. Well, I'm sure I'm. I'm sure we'll, you know, have differing opinions later. [00:07:55] Speaker B: But, yeah, you know, definitely within the tracks. Yeah. [00:07:58] Speaker A: Enjoy. [00:07:58] Speaker B: It lasts. [00:08:08] Speaker A: So the first song on the album, Nelly, is, [00:08:16] Speaker B: you know, that wasn't bad. I will say, like, your. Your impression. That one was. That wasn't bad. [00:08:21] Speaker A: I think about the song. [00:08:22] Speaker B: I was like, oh, no, the song. The song is goaded. That song. But we've been doing that. Like, I'm just like. I had. You knew that song. I knew that song. And I think opening the album with that, I was like, yes, baby girl. [00:08:32] Speaker A: You know. You know. You know when the sequencing isn't good, you're like, what are you doing? This was good sequencing. I was like, we know what we're doing. Sequencing the sequencing of the album. Choosing which tracks go where. [00:08:44] Speaker B: Oh. Oh, my gosh. I guess. Yeah, that is. Yeah, that does make sense. I always think about track order. [00:08:49] Speaker A: I don't know words. Because I was listening to one of our episodes the other day, and I was talking about syllables. I was trying to talk about. No, sorry. I was trying to talk about. Not syllables. Yeah, syllables. And I was. I said vowels. So I'm talking about. I'm talking about vowels, and I'm trying to say syllables. And you're like, huh? [00:09:13] Speaker B: It's okay, Cam. It's okay. I got you. I got you, babe. If I could turn back time. So good. Like, actually just so good. I don't know if I ever. Is there a music video for the song? [00:09:24] Speaker A: There most definitely would be. I haven't seen it. Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's a number one hit. Let me just check. I should know this. It went to number three on the Billboard Hot 100, which is pretty good. [00:09:37] Speaker B: I think. Something also that, like, affirms what I feel like I would visualize when I think of the song is like an open air stadium. And then I just watched that the official video is a live performance of her performing in an open air stadium. And I think there's just something so freeing about the song that I imagine like a concert at Budweiser Stadium and just like. Like letting just the breeze hit you in a nice, warm August concert. I personally would love to have seen this live, but this is just such a great opener. [00:10:12] Speaker A: Yeah, no, this is a really fire song, and it was a very big hit. I also love the key change. Yeah, that was a great moment because I was like. I thought this was a higher key, and then it switched to a higher key in the End. I was like, hell, yeah. And it was so, like, 80s, but in the best way. I was like. I don't know how to explain it, but it's like a really good, like, rock song from the 80s. What's one where it's like. Other happy people. [00:10:43] Speaker B: Oh. Oh, my God. That took me so long to realize what you were saying. [00:10:51] Speaker A: It's, like, atonal. There's no. There's no pitch on there. You get it? [00:10:57] Speaker B: Yeah, I do, I do. [00:10:58] Speaker A: Thank you. [00:10:58] Speaker B: I appreciate it. [00:10:59] Speaker A: But, yeah, it just has, like. I don't know, it has, like, really good rock vibes. So I was here for that. And yeah, it was just like. It's a great song. [00:11:07] Speaker B: Yeah. Everyone knows the song Got my so thick, thick string. Oh. And that's what I'm thinking of, personally. [00:11:15] Speaker A: These are the best days of my life. I don't know who that was supposed to be. [00:11:22] Speaker B: That's Cher. But yes, that's. That was. That's a. It's a great opener. Great, great, fantastic opener. Cher, you did your big win with this. [00:11:30] Speaker A: Beautiful, beautiful. [00:11:31] Speaker B: The next track of the album is just like Jesse James. Cam, what do you think? [00:11:37] Speaker A: I thought it was great. I loved the rock vibe, and there are some really nice, like, vocal moments. And when I was listening to it, I didn't know if it was a single or not, but I said that it was single worthy. It actually was a single and it peaked at number eight on the Hot 100. And I also loved the melodies throughout the song, so that's kind of what stood out to me. And also, have you ever seen Glee? [00:11:58] Speaker B: Yes, I've seen Glee. [00:11:59] Speaker A: This reminds me of Jesse St. James. I was like, okay. I thought, do you know who Jesse St. James? [00:12:04] Speaker B: Yeah, the one, the guy. The gay guy. That was. That was. He was the last lover of Rachel in the show. [00:12:10] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. They ended up. That's so weird that they ended up together, her and Jonathan Groff. Well, because, you know, Finn. Yeah, well, yeah, that was. I was so devastated when Cory Monteith died as a kid that. [00:12:24] Speaker B: That was like. It felt like a rug torn under me. But I think I was devastated by him. I was torn apart by Naya. Like, I. Oh, my God. [00:12:31] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:12:31] Speaker B: Actually, like, tore me apart. And it still does to this day. [00:12:34] Speaker A: Yeah. I'm still so sad about Naya because. Oh, I know. She's like, child. [00:12:40] Speaker B: Her son. Yeah, yeah. Sorry, Jesse. Sorry. [00:12:46] Speaker A: But Jesse St. James, that's what that reminds me of. And the whole time I was, like, thinking of, like, him doing Bohemian Rhapsody while, like, Quinn for Brace. You know, shoving a baby out of her hoo. Ha. And she's like, wait, isn't she, like, screaming the lyrics to the song? Oh, yeah, that was pure cinema. And she's like, let me go. Like, like, like screaming it as she's like, yeah, pushing the baby out. And it's like, okay, well, who really says that? And they're giving birth. But, you know, it was for the cinematics of it. [00:13:13] Speaker B: Have you given bir. [00:13:15] Speaker A: I have to. [00:13:16] Speaker B: Mariah. [00:13:19] Speaker A: Sorry. I don't know why I'm laughing like this recently. [00:13:25] Speaker B: Yeah, sorry. [00:13:26] Speaker A: Let me go. But, yeah, but no one cared about Marc Tayling's death Puck. No, because, you know. [00:13:32] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [00:13:36] Speaker A: Pivot. [00:13:37] Speaker B: Yeah. I'm glad you like the song. This was not. Not great to me. [00:13:42] Speaker A: Oh. [00:13:43] Speaker B: Unfortunately. Oh. But what I did admire about the song is that it felt like a song that she would have written when she actually was a teenager. Like, it felt like a song that she revived in her more mature years. And, like, I could picture this have having been a song that she, like, wrote in her diary and then, like, coming back to it, like, a full circle moment for her. I think it's also just, like, the name. Like, having the, like, the name of the song. I'm like, this feels like a high school crush that she had or something that she's, like, calling back to, like, a little cheeky moment. I think that's cute. But the song itself, it didn't really do anything for me, unfortunately, just because it was among some great hits. And so I was, like, also having it after. If I could turn back time. I was like, oh, okay, next, you know? [00:14:27] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:14:28] Speaker B: But it's. It's. It's not. I don't think that it's bad. I don't think it's a bad song. I think it's fun, cute, but not great. [00:14:36] Speaker A: Fair. [00:14:37] Speaker B: Yeah. Okay, we'll agree to disagree. [00:14:40] Speaker A: Well, to be honest, I'm not, like, this is, like, such a good song. Like, this is so, like, Jesse James is, like, her best song. Like, I'm not like that. But so I. Yeah, I'm pretty. Like, I liked it, but I'm not, like, I'm not gonna die on a hill for it. You know what I mean? [00:14:54] Speaker B: Okay. [00:14:55] Speaker A: So. [00:14:56] Speaker B: Yeah. Your hair looks great, by the way. [00:14:58] Speaker A: Oh, my God. Thank you so much. [00:14:59] Speaker B: It's, like, nice and, like, almost like sex hair. [00:15:02] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. Thank you. I try to make it look like, you know what my. You know what my secret is? Sex Semen. [00:15:09] Speaker B: Oh, [00:15:11] Speaker A: I'm just kidding. I'm Just kidding. It's. It's just. It's just a paste. But no, and I washed it. Thank you. [00:15:18] Speaker B: I want to do it. That'll do it. [00:15:19] Speaker A: Your hair looks great too. It's super, like, curly and. [00:15:21] Speaker B: Thanks. But, like, I just. I need to redo it. I'm over it. But it's so cute, though. I really like this style. [00:15:27] Speaker A: Yeah, no, it is very cute. [00:15:29] Speaker B: And, like, I just wanted. I just want to fresh. I want to go into spring with fresh hair. So stay tuned. [00:15:33] Speaker A: Okay, I'll keep an eye out. Should we move on to the next track on the album? [00:15:38] Speaker B: Let's do it. The next track on the album is you Wouldn't Know love. Can I just say, I love a booming three part harmony that comes in. In a chorus, like, when it's just like, you wouldn't Know love. [00:15:53] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:15:54] Speaker B: So good. I really loved this song. It also was, like, the beginning was very much giving. Oh, we're halfway there. [00:16:01] Speaker A: Oh, my God. Yeah, [00:16:04] Speaker B: this is me just trying to get discovered, but I'm going to Hollywood. [00:16:08] Speaker A: I've discovered you. [00:16:09] Speaker B: Oh, thank you, Kim. [00:16:10] Speaker A: Such a great singer. Sometimes I'll just get Nelly to sing for me. [00:16:13] Speaker B: Great. [00:16:13] Speaker A: Nelly, can you sing? I will always love you. [00:16:16] Speaker B: Please, if I. That's all you got? [00:16:23] Speaker A: Sh. [00:16:24] Speaker B: Yes. Carry it for me. [00:16:25] Speaker A: K. No. People have listened to the podcast and been like, oh, Nelly can sing. [00:16:31] Speaker B: Oh, my God. [00:16:32] Speaker A: Even though you just sing, like, I don't think you've, like, ever sang, like, super, super deadass on this podcast. But. But people are like, oh, she's. [00:16:41] Speaker B: Oh, my God. Wait. [00:16:43] Speaker A: Yeah, not me. [00:16:43] Speaker B: Getting fan mail. [00:16:44] Speaker A: No, I'm not. I'm not kidding. [00:16:45] Speaker B: What? [00:16:46] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:16:46] Speaker B: Okay, well, whoever it is, I will literally sing at your next birthday party. Okay. Like, literally. But I do have a rate card. I do charge by the minute. [00:16:55] Speaker A: Yeah, 45aminute. Yeah. [00:16:58] Speaker B: But I appreciate it. Thank you. [00:17:00] Speaker A: I. [00:17:01] Speaker B: This song really does bring out, like, the, like, rock star in me. Oh, man. Just. I feel like this would be. This. It would have been a really great collab between her and Tina. [00:17:10] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:17:10] Speaker B: You know, I feel like this is a song that would have been fun to have Tina on. [00:17:14] Speaker A: There weren't many. I think there was only one feature on the whole album. [00:17:18] Speaker B: Yeah. And it was the worst song. [00:17:19] Speaker A: Oh, okay. Well, we'll get there. [00:17:21] Speaker B: Sorry. [00:17:22] Speaker A: No, you're good, you're good, you're good. Do you have anything more to say about this song? [00:17:27] Speaker B: I think just the vocals on the song are out of this world. Yeah. The build up is. It feels earned. Like, when we get to the chorus. And I love a good drum, as you know. I love a good fucking drum. And, I mean, this one doesn't. I don't think it's the strongest one in certain, like, for drums, per se. Like, I feel like there are others I'm excited to get to, but, like, this one, I'm like, I really. I love a steady beat. I love a. And it just felt very a la Living on a Prayer. [00:17:56] Speaker A: Yeah. There's another one that made me think of Living on a Prayer, which we'll get to. But I thought it was a great song. And I love that the vocals were consistently high because I love a good vocal moment. [00:18:07] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:18:07] Speaker A: So let it out. And I never really, like, heard her in such a rock context because, like, I feel like if I could turn back time is a little bit more pop than this. So I was like, oh, okay. I'm here for it. [00:18:19] Speaker B: Do you think it's a minor key? [00:18:21] Speaker A: I. I think it's just. I think it's just the vocal delivery, like you were saying, like, the booming. You wouldn't, like, let it. Like, let it out, girl. [00:18:29] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:18:29] Speaker A: Because I don't know. I. I wasn't, like, sure if Cher could sing, to be honest, like, when I was growing up. But then I'm like, oh, yeah, she. She could. [00:18:40] Speaker B: She got it. She got it. [00:18:42] Speaker A: So. Yeah. And still can. Probably. I don't know. [00:18:47] Speaker B: She did. She was featured with. Do you know Future? Yeah, she did. She did a song with Future. [00:18:53] Speaker A: How was it? [00:18:54] Speaker B: It's, like, abysmal. Like, it's. It's like. But I. But I. Honestly, I'm just. I'm just taking it as a prank. I'm like, they're pranking me. [00:19:00] Speaker A: This is. This must be a joke. [00:19:02] Speaker B: Yeah. I'll play it for you afterwards. It's not good. [00:19:05] Speaker A: Okay. [00:19:05] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:19:07] Speaker A: That's all I really have to say about this song, though. It was a single, I think, in the uk. [00:19:12] Speaker B: Okay, that makes sense. [00:19:12] Speaker A: Like, Australia. But it. [00:19:13] Speaker B: Oh, that's very. [00:19:14] Speaker A: Well. [00:19:15] Speaker B: Oh, that makes it. This sounds very uk. Yeah. [00:19:19] Speaker A: You wouldn't know. [00:19:20] Speaker B: Love Simon Cowell. [00:19:22] Speaker A: Americans don't. [00:19:23] Speaker B: Gordon Ramsey. But, yeah, this is. This is a fantastic song, and you guys should listen to it. Like, seriously, like, this is. This is a really good song. [00:19:32] Speaker A: Yeah. The next track is the title track of the album, Heart of Stone. I thought it was cute for a title track, though, you know, I love a good title track. And you all should know this. At this point, I was a little bit. A little. Little bit disappointed. I Didn't, like, I didn't hate it or. And I didn't love it, but I was just like, huh. You know, I have a hard on for title tracks, so I was expecting a little bit better. But here is Cher once again asking life's important questions. One being, do you believe in life after love? And another being, if you had a heart of stone, would that make, you know, shit easier? And I think you would probably die. [00:20:11] Speaker B: That's, you know, that's a good observation. That's a good observation, Cam. [00:20:14] Speaker A: That's what I think. [00:20:15] Speaker B: That's why you're a doctor. [00:20:16] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:20:16] Speaker B: I personally also didn't love this song, per se, but I do. I will say that I'm like. I felt really nostalgic listening to this because it made me feel like I'm in a department store. Like, this is very much so. Just like a song that I would be playing while I'm thrift, like, in, like, Value Village. Like, voluva. My God. When I used to work at Valley Village, I used to call it Valuva Lodge. And that was just because I was. I was embarrassed about working at Value Village. But, like, never be embarrassed by your job. [00:20:42] Speaker A: Never. [00:20:42] Speaker B: I mean, there are some that you should be embarrassed by, but anyways. [00:20:45] Speaker A: Like what? [00:20:47] Speaker B: Like, if you work for ice, I think you should be embarrassed. Oh, yeah, sure. I think it should be that. [00:20:52] Speaker A: You know, that's real, actually. [00:20:53] Speaker B: You know, that's real. Some real shit. Yeah, we'll skip over that. But I think. I think, just in general, this song, I. I think. I don't think it's the strongest title track for sure, but I think that this would be something that I would. I wouldn't go and seek out of a song. Like, I would never type in Heart of Stone. I would type in the album, but not the title track. [00:21:14] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:21:15] Speaker B: But it would be part of just, like, a compilation that I'd probably just play together. I wouldn't. I wouldn't go and turn it off, but it's like something that I'm, Like, I'm. I think I feel a little bit of boredom when I listen to the song. You know, like, good boredom. Sometimes it's good to be bored. [00:21:31] Speaker A: That's real. [00:21:31] Speaker B: I think it's a privilege to be bored. I miss being bored. [00:21:35] Speaker A: Yeah. Being bored. Yeah. I mean, I actually. I'm home a lot because I'm a hermit, so sometimes I get bored and I'm like, no, I actually don't like being bored. People are like, oh, I miss being bored. You really literally just Said that literally just me two seconds ago. [00:21:51] Speaker B: There are some people I know that literally, like, just gloat about not being poor. [00:21:56] Speaker A: Anyway, it was a single. It went to number 20 on the Billboard Hot 100. This was a, in my opinion, a choice for a single. I think it's a cover. It's a cover of a Bucks Fizz song released the year before. And it was the last song that Bucks Fizz released. So that's why I don't know who the fuck they are. This is still Heart of Stone. [00:22:21] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm over it. [00:22:25] Speaker A: Let's move on. The next track on the album is still in love with you. What'd you think? [00:22:30] Speaker B: This one I love. I feel like I've been alternating. Literally, this album has just been like, not as much. Like, not as much. And right now I'm on like, again. [00:22:39] Speaker A: Yeah, I agree. [00:22:41] Speaker B: This one is. It kind of reminds me of you Wouldn't know Love in terms of the buildup to the chorus and also, like the little minor bits. Maybe that's why I said that I think that Tina Turner would pair well with you Wouldn't know Love is because it kind of reminds me of what's love gotta do with it at some points. More so from the minor to major, like, transitions. And this song too, I think. Like, I like the sulking moments of like the minor key and then like still in love, you know, a three part harmony. You know, tha loves to see me coming. And so similarly to two tracks ago, how it felt earned. When we get to the chorus, it does feel earned. Like I'm like, yeah, I am still in love with you. It just. I think this is also like a song for the earners. Like, it really is. I really do like this song. [00:23:27] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:23:28] Speaker B: And I feel like this is definitely a song I'd play with like my homegirls in a car for sure. And built. [00:23:32] Speaker A: This was a really, really good song. I thought it would have been a single, but no, it was not a single. Oh, this was giving, like, one of the best songs on the album. [00:23:40] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:23:41] Speaker A: So I'm. Who. Who decided that it wasn't going to be a single? You made Hearthstone a single, but you didn't make this a single because you [00:23:48] Speaker B: weren't in the room. [00:23:49] Speaker A: Yeah, I should have been there. I was. I wasn't even a sperm yet. I was like, floating in the universe. Maybe I was a fish. I don't. What. Depending on what you believe in. [00:23:57] Speaker B: Right. I'm glad I know what you believe, though. [00:24:00] Speaker A: Me neither. I'm figuring that Out. I don't know. I think it's something. You know, we're from something. But, you know, I. Yeah, I wasn't as physically. I wasn't a sperm yet. You know, I was getting there. [00:24:16] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:24:17] Speaker A: I was like. I don't know. Maybe. Sorry. Michael Bolton did write on this. [00:24:27] Speaker B: Oh, that makes sense. [00:24:29] Speaker A: It's kind of Michael Bolton. I feel like he's like. Like he's like. He's so high. His voice. [00:24:36] Speaker B: The neck muscle. Like, the veins in the neck. Like, he's very much so. Just like, I'm going to sing at the top of my register. [00:24:42] Speaker A: Yeah. My throat hurts just listening to him. But, you know, he's. He was a good singer. Am I like, oh, my God, let's put on fucking Michael Bolton? No, but, you know, why not? [00:24:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:24:55] Speaker A: I don't know. [00:24:55] Speaker B: Our time, you and me time. Put it on, babe. [00:24:59] Speaker A: Is that a song? [00:25:00] Speaker B: No, I'm saying when you and me have our alone time, like, freaking. Oh, Michael Bolton. [00:25:07] Speaker A: When Nelly gets the strap on and starts to fucking tau me. [00:25:12] Speaker B: Put Michael Bolton. [00:25:14] Speaker A: The Dragon dildo. [00:25:17] Speaker B: Well, play the boat. [00:25:19] Speaker A: We're not making love anymore. Yeah, that's what happens anyways. That. And what else do we listen to when we bone? [00:25:28] Speaker B: Definitely. Paula Abdul. [00:25:30] Speaker A: Oh, my God. Paul Abdul. We do it to the beats. [00:25:32] Speaker B: Yes. [00:25:33] Speaker A: Bang. Every. Every beat is a thrust. [00:25:35] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:25:36] Speaker A: And then. [00:25:36] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:25:36] Speaker A: What else do we like? [00:25:38] Speaker B: What's. What's the one Janet song? The discrimination. Knock it off. [00:25:42] Speaker A: Oh, illiteracy. No, that. That's when I want to be Dom. Nellie slaps me around. You illiterate piece of shit. Can't even know how to read. She puts a book in front of me and is like, can you even read that? I'm like, no, daddy. [00:26:00] Speaker B: How long will it take you to finish this page? Oh, my God. [00:26:03] Speaker A: I'm like, can you help me sound it out? [00:26:06] Speaker B: Janet, you will always be famous. And you come up and I think every episode, like, you really do. [00:26:10] Speaker A: Mariah hasn't come up yet, which is funny. That's wild for you, because I never shut the fuck up about Mariah. But, yeah, and. But also, Sister act hasn't come up either. [00:26:20] Speaker B: I know it's been a while. Sister Act 2. I just feel like, for me, I think. I think it's More so the 90s. Like, I know this is very close to the 90s, but I think we. The. The ones that make me feel very sister act two are the ones that are, like, definitely 90s heavy. [00:26:36] Speaker A: Yeah, that's real. You know, that makes sense. As for the Song. Sorry, we went on a tangent, but, you know, we're having fun. This is our podcast, not yours. If you don't like it, go fuck yourself. [00:26:45] Speaker B: Yeah. And maybe you're not a diva. [00:26:48] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. [00:26:49] Speaker B: If you want to be a diva, then you listen to this, this, this, this podcast. [00:26:52] Speaker A: Yeah. Maybe you're not a girl's girl, you know, you. What? You don't want to hear about Nelly topping me with the dragon. Strap on. What? Are you homophobic? [00:26:58] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:26:59] Speaker A: What are you. Are you misogynist? [00:27:00] Speaker B: Talk about it like. Are you illiterate? [00:27:02] Speaker A: Yeah. What the fuck is wrong with you? Are you not sex positive? [00:27:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:27:06] Speaker A: I think you should really re. Evaluate who you are. [00:27:08] Speaker B: Thank you. [00:27:09] Speaker A: So not you, the listeners. [00:27:11] Speaker B: Oh, no, no. I'm saying thank you, Kim, for. For informing them for sure. [00:27:14] Speaker A: Okay. Okay. Anyway, back to the song. This probably my favorite so far on the album. And I loved the synths in the chorus and I loved the key changes. So the song I remind me of is called Missing you by John Waite. It's from the 80s. It was like, probably his only hit. I think it was a bit of a one hit wonder, but it's a really good song if you haven't heard it. So I just love like a. Oh, like a rock ballad. Oh, yeah. [00:27:39] Speaker B: You get me. [00:27:40] Speaker A: That gets me going almost as much as a dragon. I'm sorry, I'll stop. I'll stop. [00:27:46] Speaker B: Almost as much as. [00:27:47] Speaker A: No Luby. [00:27:47] Speaker B: Nelly entering me. Yeah, no, this is. I agree. I think this is my favorite so far for sure. I think you're ridiculous. [00:27:56] Speaker A: I'm so. I don't know what I. I don't know what's up today. [00:27:59] Speaker B: Yeah. What's in the air? Maybe it's okay for context, listeners. This is like. We've been getting some nice sun yesterday. Today it's been some nice sun. I'm able to walk outside and not have to wear my freaking Tundra coated coat. I've been able to walk outside in sneakers. Like, it's. It's been pretty nice. So I think it's definitely impacted our moods a bit. And we're a little horned out, so forgive us. [00:28:19] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. And we've been able to, you know, do our exhibitionist stuff because of the weather. [00:28:24] Speaker B: Right. [00:28:25] Speaker A: And engage in that together. [00:28:26] Speaker B: So I think that was where you're. You're experiencing a very intimate time between me and Cam. [00:28:30] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:28:31] Speaker B: When we turn off the mics, you [00:28:33] Speaker A: don't know what happens. We actually record that too. That's on another website. [00:28:37] Speaker B: Yeah. That's 5B. Anyways. Yeah. This is a really good song. And I'm sure that, like, when you listeners listen like the divas, actual divas amongst you all, when you listen to it, you'll agree that this is. This is a very strong one. [00:28:52] Speaker A: Yeah. Shall we move on to the next song, Nelly? [00:28:55] Speaker B: Yes. Which is Love on a Rooftop. [00:28:58] Speaker A: What do you think? [00:29:00] Speaker B: Huh? Exactly. I keep flip flopping between each song. That's so interesting. I feel like it's similarly to how I felt about Heart of Stone. This is giving Department Store. Like, I would listen to this as I'm browsing. Oh, I see Cam smirking. He disagrees. But I. But, like, have you ever watched Superstore? [00:29:19] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:29:20] Speaker B: Do you not feel like this would be a transition song? [00:29:22] Speaker A: I don't know. I thought that show was stupid. When I. When I. When I got to the part where someone was, like, pretending to mug to, like, propose or something, I was like, this just is like. [00:29:34] Speaker B: Oh, so the first episode. [00:29:35] Speaker A: Yeah. I was like, this just isn't funny. But then again, I like Family Guy and American dad, so I don't know what that says about me. [00:29:43] Speaker B: Yeah, I think it does, but I. For Superstore. Yeah. Actually, you know what I was gonna say, like, because it makes me laugh even more in the later, like, as you go through whatever. But I'm like, I feel like it's one of those shows. If the first episode isn't getting you, then you're not gonna get it. Like, it's not gonna be for you. [00:29:58] Speaker A: Yeah. It really depends on, like, your sense of humor, I guess. Like, if that works for you. Yeah. [00:30:03] Speaker B: Like, as if you're not funny and then you'll like that show. [00:30:07] Speaker A: No, everyone just has, like, different senses of humor. [00:30:10] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:30:11] Speaker A: Like, I don't know, Family Guy kind of fucked my brain up, to be honest. As a kid. I was watching that shit at seven. And like, that does stuff to you when you're a child. And it, like I said, it just messed up my sense of humor. So I have, like, a really dark sense of humor. But I can tell. [00:30:31] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah, that's funny. It's funny because you're like, I didn't get past the first episode, but, like, they have transitions within the episode of, like, between different scenes or whatever. And they play, like, department store music, like, whatever. And I feel like this would be one of those. Like, it would be like, this song will be playing as somebody's eating baby food in the aisles. Like, it's like, really absurd transitions. But. Yeah. Any superstar fans out there, like, comment Subscribe. I didn't get past season four, though, so I'll. I'll keep it checking. [00:31:00] Speaker A: You did better than me, though. [00:31:02] Speaker B: Yes, I know that. But, yeah, this one. This one doesn't move me. [00:31:08] Speaker A: Fair. Yeah, I actually liked it. I said, I love a ballad because it started off a little bit more ballady. So I was like, oh, is this a ballad? And it wasn't. Well, it was. [00:31:17] Speaker B: I think it was mid tempo. [00:31:19] Speaker A: Yeah. I said, it's such a relatable thing lyrically to be like, oh, well, we were so in love. What happened? Sometimes that happens. [00:31:26] Speaker B: Well, that's actually kind of a theme of this album, though. Like, it's her reminiscing. [00:31:30] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:31:31] Speaker B: Like. [00:31:31] Speaker A: No, that's real. You know, sometimes you're like, oh, how do we get here? But I don't know, like, sometimes that's. Sometimes it's interesting to hear that in music because it's often, like a lot of, like, oh, like when I see you, my heart, like, explodes and I need surgery. [00:31:50] Speaker B: Right, right. [00:31:51] Speaker A: It's like so intense, but it's just like. Well, used to bone me on the roof like this, what Nellie and I were doing before we recorded, and now, you know, we don't have time to chat. [00:32:02] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:32:03] Speaker A: So it's like, whoa. What? How'd that happen? So anyway. Yeah, anyway, so I thought it was another fucking banger. And I did love the string. I thought they were. [00:32:12] Speaker B: Yeah, they were fun. I. It's just one that doesn't really move me. And I usually love, you know, I love. I know this isn't full ballad, but I, you know, I love a ballad. Yeah, I really do love a ballad. But this one, it doesn't really do anything for me. I think it's also. Yeah. I don't know if it's the placement that puts it at detriment, but. But it's not bad. I would just probably give this one, like, maybe like a 5 out of 10. [00:32:35] Speaker A: Oh, I disagree, but I respect your opinion. [00:32:39] Speaker B: Oh. Oh. Before we go at each other's throats, let's go to the next song. [00:32:46] Speaker A: We already did that. I don't know what's wrong with me today. I don't know what's wrong with me today. I'm so sorry. [00:32:50] Speaker B: Yeah. For anybody that's like celibate, maybe they shouldn't listen to this. [00:32:55] Speaker A: This is all jokes. This is all jokes. [00:32:56] Speaker B: I'm kidding. [00:32:58] Speaker A: Next one is Emotional Fire. [00:33:00] Speaker B: What did you think? [00:33:01] Speaker A: I thought it was very rock. [00:33:03] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:33:04] Speaker A: This is the one where the chorus reminded Me of living on a prayer [00:33:07] Speaker B: oh, I can see what you mean 100%. [00:33:08] Speaker A: Oh, that's what this is giving. Especially, like, when it opens up into the chorus. I thought it was good, but it wasn't my favorite. It was like. It was cute. But overall, this album has really good, consistent quality. Yeah, but like we've said in the past, at a certain point I'm like, okay, well, what are we getting to differentiate this? Yeah, you know, I like. I like different sounds, but, yeah, I. I like. I like things to sound completely different. Whereas I feel like we're kind of getting to part of the album where that's not so much the case. [00:33:40] Speaker B: That's fair. It does sound like you wouldn't know love in its own way, which is why maybe I like it. I think the con is the repetition. Like, it does sound like I've heard this before a bit, but I do like it. It sounds like something I heard before that I liked. Right. Like, I do like it. And it also affirms to me that I'm like, I think the element of this. If this. If this album is an element, it's fire. I mean, it's literally in the title. But, like, I think that she leans a lot into, like, flame stone, you know? Oh, like earth. Oh, my God. It's definitely giving fire and earth energy. But, like, I think that, like, there's just something about this song. Like, the beginning, it kind of sounded like, you know, summer of 69. The. Kind of sounded like that part a little bit. Just a tiny bit. So I think that there was definitely, like, some influence that she's getting. Like, I can see a lot of the influence within this. Within this. This album when. Where it stems from. Which is cool, because it's like, we're able to. Like, a lot of these songs were like, this kind of sounds like this kind of sounds like that. But it still feels refreshing. [00:34:43] Speaker A: Right? [00:34:44] Speaker B: Yeah, I think that's. For me, that's the only con is that I'm just like. It kind of just sounds like I. What I heard before, But I do like the song. I really do. She knows how to build up to a chorus really well. [00:34:54] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:34:55] Speaker B: And it sounds tonally different from what I hear in the verse, because the verse sounds like something else and the chorus gets into some other. [00:35:03] Speaker A: Wow. [00:35:04] Speaker B: And I'm like, oh, that's kind of girl. I see what you're doing. But I like this one. It just sounds. Yeah, it sounds like what I heard before. [00:35:12] Speaker A: Cute. Are you ready to move on to the next track? On the album. [00:35:15] Speaker B: Yes. [00:35:16] Speaker A: All because of you. [00:35:18] Speaker B: This one also isn't one of my favorites. I'll say. But I like this one. I actually, I think that, like, Because I think it leans more, it just goes for the ballad as opposed to doing the mid tempo. I'm like, I think I. You know, I favorite black ballads a lot of the time. I freaking love the drums. I freaking, freaking. The, like. So good. And this is such a karaoke song. Yeah, I love karaoke. If you know anything about me, you [00:35:45] Speaker A: know that we've never done karaoke together. But we need to. [00:35:48] Speaker B: That's actually ridiculous. [00:35:49] Speaker A: We need to do, like, Endless Love together. [00:35:51] Speaker B: Or. [00:35:51] Speaker A: Or what else could we do together? [00:35:53] Speaker B: Endless Love. [00:35:53] Speaker A: When you believe I'll be Mariah. [00:35:56] Speaker B: Auntie Whitney. Of course. Wait, but wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. We. We. We need to do Endless Love. Oh, my God. [00:36:03] Speaker A: My love. [00:36:06] Speaker B: My first love. Oh, my God. Remember when they done Glee, it was the teacher. [00:36:10] Speaker A: Oh, my God. Yeah. And they actually boned in real life, Matthew Morrison and Lea Michelle. It's like, dude, like, can you imagine them, like, together? [00:36:20] Speaker B: I. I choose not to. [00:36:22] Speaker A: That's like that. Like, that's pretty crazy. [00:36:25] Speaker B: Yeah. But it's not Endless Love. It is all because of you. Yeah. We go on tangents so easily. I love it. [00:36:31] Speaker A: I know. [00:36:32] Speaker B: But, yeah, I personally, I think the musicality of the song really hits for me. And it's funny because it, like, the build up leads in a different way to the chorus because the other ones, it leads up to power. Like, it's like, wow. On fire. [00:36:48] Speaker A: Right. [00:36:49] Speaker B: Whereas this one, she's calm again when she gets to the chorus. So you hear the drums and the drums, it's like, it's all because of you. Like, it's like. It's like a moment of realization where she's like. Like her, like, eureka moment, which is really, really cool. [00:37:07] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:37:07] Speaker B: In its own way. Yeah. I like this song. [00:37:09] Speaker A: Cute. [00:37:10] Speaker B: What did you think? [00:37:11] Speaker A: I was here for a ballad. I'm always here for a ballad. I thought it was a good song. I don't think it was a huge standout, in my opinion. But like I said, there's a lot of, like, there's overall a good, high quality standard for this album. [00:37:26] Speaker B: Right. [00:37:26] Speaker A: So. Yeah. And I loved the bridge. [00:37:28] Speaker B: Mm. [00:37:29] Speaker A: I thought that was a nice. [00:37:30] Speaker B: The bridge, I think, was the best part. [00:37:31] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:37:32] Speaker B: Yeah, agreed. But I'm glad that we agreed on this song. [00:37:37] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:37:37] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:37:39] Speaker A: You ready for the next track? [00:37:40] Speaker B: This next song is. Does anybody really fall in love anymore? This one I felt kind of felt Ironic. Like, it felt like it was. I don't know if. I don't know if I'm using the right words, but it just. It didn't feel real of a song. [00:37:54] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:37:54] Speaker B: Like, kind of like a trip. But it did kind of remind me of MacArthur Park. Like, the beginning of MacArthur Park. This song. Yeah. Felt like a kind of a trip in a way that I don't. I. I don't know if I. I don't know if I understand the trip. I don't know where she's going with it. With this song. [00:38:10] Speaker A: Yeah, I. I felt that way, too. It didn't really do much for me. I thought the lyrics and the chorus structure was, like, odd. I was just like, what are we doing? [00:38:20] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:38:20] Speaker A: Because it wasn't rhyming, right. And, like, it would just kind of. It kind of felt like whoever wrote the lyrics were on crack. The. The production and everything was there. That was all there. That sounded great, but it was just, like, the writing for me. I was like, huh. No, I was. I was a bit confused. [00:38:39] Speaker B: I do wonder where her head was at with this song. I'm like, it is kind of giving. They needed to add another track to the album. [00:38:47] Speaker A: Well, funnily enough, this was written by Diane Warren. Bon Jovi. Diane Warren and Bon Jovi. [00:39:01] Speaker B: Yeah. That's a funny combo. Okay. I think. Yeah. This one is one that I didn't. I don't know if I understood you, girl. I don't know if I get it. [00:39:10] Speaker A: I'm like, you had heavy hitters, and this what you came up with for the writers. So I don't know. I did. Yeah. That didn't do anything for me. [00:39:18] Speaker B: No. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that's it. I have to say, about this song. Next song, starting Over. If you're a real diva, this is your song. Okay. Just like me. Honestly, this song, the moment. The moment it started, I was there. I was like, oh, I'm right there. When I was listening to the song, I was cooking. [00:39:41] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:39:42] Speaker B: And making my beef, and I literally had to turn around because I was like, if my roommates see me right now, they would believe me. They would definitely believe me. But this song, it got me moving. Like, I was like. I was like, oh, okay. It felt like. Like almost sinister. In the beginning of the song, I was doing this, like, I wish you could see my face right now. I was like, scrunching my nose up. I'm like, this is. This is a hit, girl. I loved it. I really, like, actually, no notes. [00:40:11] Speaker A: Awesome. [00:40:12] Speaker B: Really, really good. Song. [00:40:13] Speaker A: I thought it was good. I really liked the lyrics, and I can really kind of relate because I'm in a new chapter of my life, so I can relate. And was just like, yeah, Cher. Cher. She knows they're starting over, going in a new direction. [00:40:29] Speaker B: Oh, Kermit. [00:40:30] Speaker A: So I was. I was. I was here for that. I don't know if it was, like, my favorite, but I did really like it. I thought it was. And I thought it was great. [00:40:38] Speaker B: I'm sorry. It's just, like, that build up in the beginning. Like, it feels like. I feel like a new woman listening to this one, and I think it's because of the title, Starting over, but, like, it feels like she. Exactly. You said. I'm. Like, it feels like we're in a new chapter in our lives, and we're like, yeah, just. Just facing it. Just actually embracing that change, I think is so. I. It feels so relevant now. [00:41:03] Speaker A: Yeah. And I feel like. I really can't tell you many songs about reinventing yourself. I mean, in terms of, like, I don't know, like, romance, I guess. Like, there's breakup songs. There's, like, lovey dovey songs, but just in general, like, could be moving to a new place, could be anything. Yeah, I thought. I thought it was cool. It was like some. I don't know. You know when you hear, like, a theme in a song that you're not used to? I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're Cher. Cher. Putting it to a tune. [00:41:37] Speaker B: I love that laugh. No, yeah. This song. This song is great. I actually don't. I think the lyrics, I think the musicality. I think just. Even the beginning, like, just the dun dun. I could feel something is coming. Like, something is on the horizon. I love it. I love it, love it, love it, love it. All right, how about the next track, Cam? [00:41:58] Speaker A: So the next track, which is the second last on the album, is Kiss To Kiss. What do you think of this one, Nelly? [00:42:03] Speaker B: Cute. This one is cute. This one's cute. I don't think it's a standout to me, but again, I think this is. Man. Have. Did her and Tina ever collab? Oh, they definitely. Oh, they did perform. Yeah. I was like, they definitely did collab. Okay, they did. They did collab, which is why I'm like. I feel like there's, like, a lot of. Of intersection between, like, this album and, like, a lot of Tina's discography, and I feel like this is one that Tina. I don't know if they would collab together on the song. I really can't. I can't picture them singing together, but I can picture this exact song being on Tina's discography. [00:42:36] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:42:36] Speaker B: Like, it just. It felt very interchangeable, which is why I'm like, I need to watch some performance. I think I did see a clip of them performing together on the Cher show, maybe. But like this one, yeah, it didn't like get me pumping, per se. But like, this is one that I [00:42:55] Speaker A: was like, cute, cute. [00:42:57] Speaker B: Next. [00:42:57] Speaker A: You know, fair. Yeah, I thought it was a nice, like, I thought it was nice that it was a different sound than we've heard on the album and it was kind of a vibey opening. Yeah, I. I enjoyed that. I love it when, you know, give me something different. [00:43:11] Speaker B: Exactly. [00:43:12] Speaker A: That's what I'm here for, so. And I also thought it was an interesting story lyrically about like long distance love. And another thing that you don't really see depicted much like another, a song that about like long distance love that I really like is actually by Demi Lovato. It's called My Love is Like a Star. And if you haven't listened to it, it's like a really nice R B moment. [00:43:33] Speaker B: I don't think I've heard that. [00:43:35] Speaker A: But yeah, like, that's really one of the only songs I could think of of, you know, being with someone. It's like, well, you're so far away and you know, come here. Why are you so far? [00:43:48] Speaker B: Come back. [00:43:49] Speaker A: So I thought it was a nice like mid tempo moment. [00:43:51] Speaker B: Yeah. Next. And the very last track of the album is, after all, which is the love theme from Chances Are. [00:44:02] Speaker A: What a weird title for a movie. [00:44:04] Speaker B: What did you think of this last song, Cam? [00:44:07] Speaker A: I thought it was like I said, I like it when things are different. So I was like, fuck, yeah, we have a ballad. So I thought it was really pretty and a great duet. I love the strings and it was like one of the standouts to me. It kind of reminded me of like a Celine Dion. You know how she would sing songs for movies? [00:44:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:44:23] Speaker A: Like kind of gave me. Is giving When I Fall In Love. [00:44:27] Speaker B: Love that song so much. [00:44:29] Speaker A: But yeah, I thought it was great. What'd you think, Nelly? [00:44:34] Speaker B: This was cute. I liked this. It felt very Disney. Yeah, it felt like. Which is like. I think it just part of the. The idea of it having been a song for a movie. But it felt it was such. It was very. It was very cute. [00:44:50] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:44:51] Speaker B: Yeah. I felt very tender listening to this one. I think I confused. So like earlier I think I was thinking when I was thinking of this. Like, when we're talking about this duet, I was thinking about the other ballad that we had talked about. We're like, where the fuck are you going with this? Yeah, but this one was cute. Like, it felt. It felt pretty heartwarming. It reminded me of a song. [00:45:09] Speaker A: Nelly does have taste, after all. [00:45:11] Speaker B: It reminded me, I think. Hear me out. Okay. It's literally just the chord progression at the beginning. Like, it reminded me of the prayer. [00:45:20] Speaker A: Oh, that's a good song. [00:45:21] Speaker B: You know, [00:45:27] Speaker A: Each night. [00:45:29] Speaker B: Oh, my God. [00:45:32] Speaker A: I don't know what he's saying. Yeah. [00:45:38] Speaker B: Maybe that should be our karaoke song. I'll learn Italian. I'll do it. [00:45:42] Speaker A: Yeah, we'll both. Here. We'll both do it. [00:45:44] Speaker B: Oh, my God. Perfect. [00:45:44] Speaker A: I need to. I need to be Pavarotti and then Seline. Is it Pavarotti? [00:45:48] Speaker B: No, Andrelli. [00:45:50] Speaker A: Andre Pacelli. I need to be him once. I need to be Seline once. [00:45:59] Speaker B: Also. That song is so beautiful. [00:46:01] Speaker A: It is such a good song. [00:46:01] Speaker B: Such a stunning song anyways. But, yeah, this one is cute. I liked it. I don't know if I would end off the album with this, but I think it was, like, just tagged on. [00:46:09] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah, I do agree. [00:46:12] Speaker B: But I also wouldn't end it with the one before it, though, either. [00:46:17] Speaker A: I feel like of all the ending songs on this album, this probably is the best fit. I don't know. Ending on, like, a ballad, like something different. You know, it's from a movie soundtrack. It's a duet. It's kind of like, well, we'll throw this in for you. It's all. [00:46:29] Speaker B: Yeah, like two for one. Yeah, that's fair. That's fair. But. Yeah. That concludes the tracks of the album. Cher, you are that girl. [00:46:38] Speaker A: Thank you, Carol the Frog. [00:46:41] Speaker B: You trying to be on trio, But Shelli. But that's not working. [00:46:45] Speaker A: You will. [00:46:46] Speaker B: There we go. [00:46:48] Speaker A: Hey. [00:46:50] Speaker B: Yeah, I think it's good. It'll be. This is a good touch point to talk about the music market. [00:46:54] Speaker A: So, like, there's, like, a lot of rock music in the 80s. Like, whoa. Like, a lot of hits. You're like, pause. No. In terms of rock music, what was big in the 80s? Like, you two. Sorry. Like, Fudge and you, too. Who else was big? [00:47:14] Speaker B: This was a. [00:47:15] Speaker A: This was my moment. [00:47:16] Speaker B: A Queen moment. [00:47:18] Speaker A: Was Queen big in the 80s? I guess they were Queen because. Yeah, they were still going. [00:47:23] Speaker B: Tina. This is Tina. Well, Tina was early to mid-80s. Michael. [00:47:31] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:47:31] Speaker B: Ravaging. [00:47:32] Speaker A: No, that's true. I guess I know. I guess I know pop a lot better Than I know rock. [00:47:36] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, that's true. Sorry, I'm only thinking about Dirty Diane. [00:47:42] Speaker A: Yeah. Or Black Cat. [00:47:44] Speaker B: Oh, Janet. Oh, no, Janet was 90s. Janet was really. [00:47:47] Speaker A: Janet was 80s. [00:47:49] Speaker B: Wasn't that early 90s? [00:47:51] Speaker A: She did do stuff in early 90s. But rhythm nation's 89. [00:47:54] Speaker B: Oh, it is 89. [00:47:55] Speaker A: And controls 86. [00:47:56] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Oh, shit. Yeah. Rock was major. Rock was really, really major, as we know. And I think that's just the thing is that, like, because I was not as familiar with Cher, I was. I was more in her, like, futuristic pop, like 99. Like 1999 era of Cher. [00:48:15] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:48:16] Speaker B: So I'm like, to hear this rock. This rock era for her was. It's very enlightening. And, like, it just also refers to me that I'm like, I really do like rock. I don't like heavy metal, but I like rock. Like, I do like rock. [00:48:30] Speaker A: Yeah. Heavy metal is a little much, but rock. Yeah, absolutely. [00:48:32] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:48:33] Speaker A: Especially like kind of soft rock like this. Yeah, this is great. [00:48:37] Speaker B: This is cute. But, yeah. And then talking about the album success, [00:48:43] Speaker A: the album only charted at number 10 on the US Billboard 200, which isn't amazing. And it was certified triple platinum by the RIAA in the US, denoting 3 million units. So I don't know if it was, like, the biggest seller as an album. The most successful single from it was if I Could Turn Back Time. So maybe, like, retrospectively it's become bigger. But yeah, it is a very, like, solid piece of her discography, though. But 4 million sales worldwide, honestly, is, like, not super great, but it's good. It's good. Let's see what's. Let's see. Let me just see what preceded it, because now I feel like, oh, my God, maybe we chose the wrong. [00:49:32] Speaker B: But I. But I think this is. This is a good album to have covered because I'm like. I think it's still very notable in her. In her discography. [00:49:39] Speaker A: Yeah, for sure. [00:49:40] Speaker B: And also, like, I do love to shake it up a bit to be like, let's not do their number one album. Let's do, like, get their sleeper hits in here. Because I'm like, she got lots of [00:49:48] Speaker A: sleeper hits for sure. Honestly, for her albums, though, it is one of the better performing ones. I don't even know if Believe did as well as this. Believe went to number four and this went to number ten. So it's interesting. I will say, though. Love Hurts, that album cover is so iconic. We'll get into the album cover for Heart of Stone. But, yeah, Love Hurts. I'm like, oh, my God, that's her in that hair and she's. That face card. [00:50:18] Speaker B: She has very like her eyes, her nice big eyes that just is. She's able to like make look very siren like too. It's really, really cool. [00:50:29] Speaker A: So, yeah, that overall it was a decent success, but I think maybe the singles did better and maybe it's better known for if I could Turn Back Time. [00:50:36] Speaker B: Yeah, we can talk about the singles. [00:50:37] Speaker A: Yeah, we already talked a bit about the success of the singles. The first single from the album was after all, that is the song from the movie that we just finished talking about and it went to number six on the Billboard Hot 100. So a decent success for her. [00:50:54] Speaker B: Yeah. And then as we know, like the second one being if I could Turn Back Time, which is. Yeah. Like, literally I was like. When we're. When I was looking through the album or like when I first opened the album, I was like, great opener. Like this fantastic choice, Baby girl. [00:51:09] Speaker A: Yeah. Diane Warren wrote that song, which makes sense because it's such a big hit and she's written so many amazing songs. And then the third single was just like Jesse James, which was also co written by Diane Warren. And then the fourth single was Heart of Stone, that was written by Andy Hill and Pete Sinfield. And then the final single, you wouldn't Know Love, was written by Michael. Michael Bolton and Diane Warren. So they said, okay, we'll get. We'll get Diane Warren on the singles and other people for the rest. But honestly, I think, like, my favorite song though wasn't the singles. It was still in love with you. So it's funny. [00:51:54] Speaker B: Yeah, well, even thinking. Sorry, no, I was literally about to. This is nothing. No, Beyonce. Never mind. I don't have to cover you right now. I was about to say in Renaissance. Yeah, in Renaissance. Because Cuff it, she was trying to make Church Girl the single originally, but then her fans were like, no, it's Cuff It. And she chose Cuff it. And that was a solid choice. [00:52:14] Speaker A: Sometimes the fans know better than the labels. [00:52:17] Speaker B: You know, Church Girl's a good song. Like, Church Girl's a great song, but Cuff it is literally. That was the one. I think when it had first released, that was a song that sold everybody. They're like, whoa, this is wow. Yeah. And then ever. And then I personally, I caught up to Cozy later. It was cozy. I was like, oh, this is great. But then seeing it live, I was like, this is genius. [00:52:41] Speaker A: Oh, my God, you're so lucky. [00:52:44] Speaker B: I don't know. Did you Know that I saw Beyonce live. [00:52:46] Speaker A: I went to the Reddit on Stewart. [00:52:48] Speaker B: I did. It's okay. We're gonna see act three. [00:52:51] Speaker A: Oh, that's true. [00:52:52] Speaker B: Let me see act three. [00:52:53] Speaker A: So what do you think of the artwork? [00:52:55] Speaker B: So for me, there's something so freaking magnifying about her. The ways that her hands are crossed as if she's holding her belt loop. I'm like, that is so giddy up. But also, come ride my motorcycle. Vroom, vroom about it. That just feels so electric. This also, I think it has the same effect on me as the COVID art of Black Cat did. Like, just the idea of like, rawr. Like, just wow. [00:53:26] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:53:26] Speaker B: That I'm like, I really, really like. I do like the contrast of the black in her skin tone. Like, I really do like that two toned effect effect rather that I. That just feels really electric. I also just really like the Cher writing at the side. [00:53:40] Speaker A: Yeah. And the colors are like. It's very simple. Like. [00:53:43] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:53:44] Speaker A: Like, it's not too much going on and it fits the album with it being a rock album. [00:53:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:53:48] Speaker A: So, yeah, I really like it. And I think it's like, very iconic. I have seen. I've seen it before. Yeah, it's like one of her. One of her staples. So. [00:53:57] Speaker B: Yeah, they did the big one. [00:53:59] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:54:00] Speaker B: I like it. And then I know that you talked a little bit. We talked about like writers on some of the tracks, but I don't know if we've talked too much about producers. [00:54:09] Speaker A: Yeah. Diane Warren produced with Guy Roach. If I could turn back time and then. Oh, Michael Bolton actually produced still in Love with you, which is really cool. And he also produced Starting Over. [00:54:24] Speaker B: Hey, Michael Bolton, thank you for that song. [00:54:26] Speaker A: Yeah, he kind of ate with that. I haven't really gotten into him because he's a man. That doesn't. [00:54:32] Speaker B: I mean, that'll do it. [00:54:33] Speaker A: Yeah. That doesn't do it for me. Well, [00:54:37] Speaker B: depends on how you look at it. [00:54:40] Speaker A: I'm not going to listen to his music, but I think Michael Bolton's actually fine, though. Like, I have to look him up. [00:54:49] Speaker B: I will say that the meaning of fine, I think, has lost all meaning. I'm sorry, friend. We do not. We do not see idea young. [00:54:58] Speaker A: He's not bad. [00:54:59] Speaker B: I can see what. What they're trying to do. I can see what they're trying to do. It's just not working on me. [00:55:04] Speaker A: Maybe they're trying a bit too hard. Yeah. [00:55:07] Speaker B: Like, even him young, it. He's still. [00:55:10] Speaker A: The hair is a. [00:55:11] Speaker B: No, no. And the way that he Shaped his face. It's just not. It's not it for me. [00:55:16] Speaker A: But, yeah, those are some of the producers of the songs. The impact, I mean, it is a staple in her career and she's had so many, like, resurgences, and she's been famous for so long. Cher, like, yeah, she is such an icon. So I don't know. I think this probably. This is probably one of her best albums, but I have to dive into the rest of the discography. Yeah, I know commercially it's one of the best and it's one of the most well remembered, but, yeah, it made me want to take more of a deep dive into Cher, to be honest. [00:55:50] Speaker B: Exactly. I was gonna say I was like, literally, this album sold me. I was like, oh, baby girl, I don't know. I don't know you like that. I need to. [00:55:57] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:55:57] Speaker B: I really do. So it is time to rank the tracks. Cam, Cam, take it away. What are your two least favorite songs? [00:56:07] Speaker A: So my least favorite is Does Anybody Really Fall in Love? Agreed that I was just like it. It's just a bit weird. And I think, like, really simple things could have made it a lot better. [00:56:20] Speaker B: Right. [00:56:20] Speaker A: But you know, they tried and, like, they. [00:56:23] Speaker B: They really pay for effort. [00:56:25] Speaker A: Yeah. But it. Not for me personally. [00:56:29] Speaker B: Yeah, me neither. I agree. And I have a feeling we might have this. The same second least favorite. [00:56:34] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:56:34] Speaker B: Okay. Do you wanna try saying at the same time? [00:56:36] Speaker A: Sure. Three, two, one. Love on a rooftop. [00:56:39] Speaker B: Oh, mine is Love on a rooftop. [00:56:41] Speaker A: Okay. Why? [00:56:43] Speaker B: It just doesn't do anything for me. I like. I think the other ones, like, for all because of you. I think it still does at least something for me with the build up towards the chorus. And it does take a different direction of the buildup, which I think was fun to experiment. But after some deep reflection, I think Love on a Rooftop, I'm just like. It doesn't really actually do much for me. [00:57:07] Speaker A: That's fair. I mean. Yeah. All because of you. I was just like, this is good. But I had to pick a second least favorite. Like, there's nothing that I'm like, oh, this is bad. [00:57:20] Speaker B: Yeah, no, no, exactly. [00:57:22] Speaker A: But I just like the other songs more. [00:57:24] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. I think I also. I don't think there's a single song on this album that I would like. If it was playing far away from me, I wouldn't purposely go out of my way to go and skip it. [00:57:33] Speaker A: Right. [00:57:33] Speaker B: You know, I just feel like, okay, whatever, sure. But, like. And that's exactly like, especially like, like Love on a Rooftop. I'm Just like. I mean, it's cool, right? But it just doesn't move me. [00:57:44] Speaker A: Cute. [00:57:45] Speaker B: All right, now time for our faves. [00:57:48] Speaker A: Yes. [00:57:49] Speaker B: In third place. Cam, what do you have? [00:57:52] Speaker A: I have if I Could Turn Back time. [00:57:56] Speaker B: That's a good one. That's a really, really good one. [00:57:57] Speaker A: Yeah. I thought it was a great song and iconic, but I did enjoy some other songs a little bit more than this one. But, I mean, how could I not have it in the top three? [00:58:07] Speaker B: That's true. That is very, very true. [00:58:08] Speaker A: It's like, you don't. [00:58:10] Speaker B: I think my third in third place for me is actually still in love with you. [00:58:16] Speaker A: Good choice. [00:58:18] Speaker B: We. I think we. We both had agreed about the idea of it just being like, this is when I think 80s. I think the song actually, like, this is. This is a very good staple. [00:58:26] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:58:27] Speaker B: Again, I'm also surprised that it wasn't a single. [00:58:29] Speaker A: Yeah, I was really shocked by that, and we'll get into that, but poor [00:58:35] Speaker B: choices, Poor choices for me. Second place is if I could Turn Back time. [00:58:41] Speaker A: Okay. [00:58:41] Speaker B: I just think. I think what makes it so high for me is also the placement of it. I think it's a really good opener, and it's just. It's so iconic. Like. It is. It is. If there are any, like, a lot of people like us who aren't as familiar with her discography, this is a song that they would know for sure. And this gives opportunity for more hits from the album. But this is a good pathway to it. Okay. [00:59:03] Speaker A: Cute. [00:59:04] Speaker B: That makes sense. I just said a lot of words, but. [00:59:05] Speaker A: No, no, that makes sense. [00:59:06] Speaker B: What about you? [00:59:08] Speaker A: I just. I do want to give an honorable mention to Love on a Rooftop. I just really like the strings in that song. [00:59:14] Speaker B: Okay. [00:59:15] Speaker A: Like, that gave me a good dopamine hit, so I would be. You know, I want to mention that. But my second favorite is actually, after all, the. The duet. I love a good duet. I love that it was different. And. Yeah, it was. It was just nice and it was cute. Very pretty. Like, you know, I love a good, like, cheesy ballad that ends with, like. And, like, some change going. Like, that's what I like. So that's cute. [00:59:40] Speaker B: That's cute. [00:59:41] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:59:41] Speaker B: That's a good one. That's a good choice. [00:59:42] Speaker A: Thank you. What's your number one? [00:59:44] Speaker B: And number one, as you guys can probably guess by my reaction, Starting over. Holy. Okay, like, this one for me, it just hooks me right from the beginning and just. It really gets me. Oh, like, hip hopping. [00:59:59] Speaker A: I love that my number one is still in Love with you. [01:00:02] Speaker B: Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes. [01:00:03] Speaker A: I love that one. That was my favorite. [01:00:06] Speaker B: I feel like that would also be a good opener. [01:00:08] Speaker A: Yeah. That would hit. If you weren't gonna go with. If I could turn back time, like, if you want to be like, oh, we're gonna put it in the album so you have to listen to the album more, then that would be a good opener. But, yeah, it was probably just the most standout for me. [01:00:22] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:00:23] Speaker A: And I'd never heard it before. I really thought it was a single. When I heard it, I was like, oh, this is another one of her, like, signature songs. But, nope, not a single and not a well known track. [01:00:32] Speaker B: So sleeper hit. [01:00:34] Speaker A: Yeah. I was surprised. Like, I don't know what they were doing by not releasing this, but we can't all. We can't all be as smart as us, you know? [01:00:43] Speaker B: Yeah. You know, perfection doesn't come easy. I know it's very lonely at the top, Cam. [01:00:47] Speaker A: I know it is. [01:00:47] Speaker B: Like, oh, but I'm glad. I'm happy that you guys have US listeners. [01:00:52] Speaker A: Yeah. Because I'm like, you're so lucky. [01:00:54] Speaker B: You're so freaking lucky. And, like, striving for perfection is done through us. But, yes, this. I'm glad. I think this is one of those that I'm like, your top three. I'm like, it makes sense. I like it. I like your top three. [01:01:07] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:01:07] Speaker B: And you better like mine too. [01:01:08] Speaker A: I do. [01:01:09] Speaker B: Good. [01:01:09] Speaker A: I do. Like, this album was very, like, inoffensive and like. And not in. Like, it didn't push the envelope in any way, but, like, it. It was. It was just very high quality. So. [01:01:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:01:22] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:01:22] Speaker B: It also, like, didn't drag on. [01:01:24] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:01:25] Speaker B: I like that. I'm like, by the time that I'm like, it ended at the perfect spot. I'm like, if they added an just one more track, I would have been like, okay. Like, you know, like, it's just. I know it would have sounded the same, but, like, this felt still refreshing, which is cool. [01:01:37] Speaker A: I feel like it was. I still think it even could have been, like, 10 tracks. But it's nice to have. Like I said, they're inoffensive. It's nice to have the extra two tracks. [01:01:46] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:01:47] Speaker A: So I'll take it. [01:01:48] Speaker B: Sometimes you have to have something that's a little bit controversial in it. And for me, it was that one ballot. The. The. Does anybody really fall in love anymore? I think they needed something that was like, let's shake it up. [01:01:58] Speaker A: Yeah. They could have cut that, but, you know, Hondo Be. We weren't alive to give that advice. I know the label. [01:02:05] Speaker B: Oh, what a shame. [01:02:06] Speaker A: Eh? Okay, so now it is time to grade the album. And Nelly, did you want to go first? [01:02:12] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Honestly, this one, it made me think a little bit because I'm like, this. She is a diva. [01:02:20] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:02:20] Speaker B: You know, and she. These were some diva hits that she had here. But I think for the purpose of success of a lot of, like, some of the songs and like, the album as a whole, I think I actually would have to give this level B, which is Forgotten Flops. And I think it's because of just. There are so many songs in here that deserved much better. I think still in love with you. [01:02:41] Speaker A: Right. [01:02:41] Speaker B: Being one of them. I think that it's just something that I'm like, it's. It. I think it should have gotten more. It should. It should have more recognition today. [01:02:51] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:02:51] Speaker B: Just because it's. They're that good. [01:02:53] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:02:53] Speaker B: What about you, Cam? What do you think? [01:02:55] Speaker A: I would have to agree with you. Give it Forgotten Flop. I think this is probably one of the lowest selling albums that we've covered on this podcast, which is crazy because this is one of the staples of her career. So maybe Cher isn't as big as I thought she was, like, sorry to say. But, like, maybe it's because she does more rock or because this was more of a rock album. [01:03:20] Speaker B: I do feel like she is a bit more of a niche, like, a little bit more of a niche of a diva. [01:03:25] Speaker A: That's fair. Yeah. I. I don't know. I guess I'm just used to pop numbers or like Whitney, where it's like, oh, my God, she sold like 20 million per album. So, like, 4 million. I'm like, what? So I would say, yeah, it's technically, it's not a flop, but it's like 4 million worldwide back then isn't amazing, to be honest. [01:03:49] Speaker B: So, yeah, like, she definitely should have been like those. Those. A lot of these songs should have been bigger. [01:03:55] Speaker A: Yeah. And this is a great. Like, this is great music. So I was just kind of surprised that with an album that is so well rounded that it didn't do better. But, you know, I mean, I haven't sold 4 million only. Only not yet. [01:04:08] Speaker B: Next week. [01:04:09] Speaker A: Yeah, next week. So who am I to talk? But yeah. [01:04:14] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:04:14] Speaker A: This is our podcast. [01:04:15] Speaker B: Not yours exactly. [01:04:16] Speaker A: Shut up. [01:04:19] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh. Well, that concludes Heart of Stone Cam. Thank you so much. This was such a fun album. [01:04:25] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:04:26] Speaker B: And I think it definitely. What I love about Diva Decoded, not only did we create it. I also learned so much, like, I think. And that's why I was really excited to cover Cher, which is. I'm like, I actually don't know anything beyond her big hits. And so this was something that I was like, oh, shit, I need to tap in. [01:04:45] Speaker A: Yeah. And Nellie, you were the one who pushed for Cher, and I, like, over someone else who we're not gonna mention [01:04:51] Speaker B: right now, but we'll come back to this person. [01:04:54] Speaker A: We'll come back to them. But, yeah, Cher I haven't really gotten into ever, so. But I was very happily surprised. And not like, oh, I thought she was gonna be shit. But, yeah, I was happy with the music and, like, a little soft rock moment. [01:05:11] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:05:11] Speaker A: Never hurt nobody, so. [01:05:12] Speaker B: Never hurt nobody. [01:05:13] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:05:14] Speaker B: And I think, like, I just really. I guess this has also encouraged me to listen to more rock music. Like, not like that. I don't. It's more. So just like, I've always kind of kept it in the back of my mind being like, okay, yeah, whatever. I like what I like. But I'm like, I actually am into soft rock. Like, it's. I just am all about passion. Like, I. I need some passion, and so I need some belting. I need some good drums, and I'm sold. [01:05:39] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:05:40] Speaker B: Like, I'm there. [01:05:40] Speaker A: So I love that. Well, next week, we will be covering a diva who may or may not have coined the term coming out. If you don't know who that is, then read a book. [01:05:53] Speaker B: Then read a book. [01:05:54] Speaker A: I'll send you an encyclopedia. [01:05:56] Speaker B: Or listen to next week's episode. [01:05:57] Speaker A: Oh, that too. But, yeah, that's. That's what we have for this week. So thank you so much for listening. Thank you. Do you have any final notes? Sorry about all the profanities and the stuff I said this week. I'm a very professional person. [01:06:12] Speaker B: Hey, that's what passion brings out. [01:06:14] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:06:14] Speaker B: And this is what Cher does to us. [01:06:17] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:06:17] Speaker B: So Cher is actually kind of your fault. [01:06:19] Speaker A: Yeah, it actually is. [01:06:20] Speaker B: What do you think about it? But thank you so much, divas. I hope you had a great listen and. And we'll tune in next week to another diva. [01:06:28] Speaker A: Yes. All right. Thank you. [01:06:30] Speaker B: Have a great week. Bye. Before we end, we'd love to shout out our lovely team behind this podcast. [01:06:47] Speaker A: First, we'd like to shout out our amazing editor, Blake Walker. Thank you so much. You do all the dirty work, and we really, really appreciate you. [01:06:54] Speaker B: We love you, Blake. We'd also love to shout out our lovely social media, Angelica Ortega. So everything you see visually, it's her? [01:07:01] Speaker A: Yeah. She's killing it. Thank you so much for listening. My name is Cam Barbeau. [01:07:06] Speaker B: And I'm Nelly Deverilles. [01:07:07] Speaker A: You've been listening to Diva Decoded.